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The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.27 20:20:00 - [1] And how exactly do you expect them to improve the game when all they have is the word of the players and no hands-on experience of whatever needs improvement? Sure, Devs and GMs playing the game as players runs the risk of temptation setting in and whatnot, can you honestly say you haven't been tempted to commit any wrongdoing in your job? In your everyday life? Eh? The Devs and GMs have just as much right to play this game as players, just the same as the paying customers. One measly incident and some (as yet unproven - just wait, will you?) allegations are going to change my opinion on it. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.27 20:34:00 - [2] Originally by: CrestoftheStars the difference is that they get PAID to NOT play the game as gamers, but as developers, thereby beeing able to improve and test whatever the players think is a problem to see if this is so and then fix it. we do not pay them to play and have fun while unbalancing, cheating and spawning things for specific gain for there alliance. and yer sure i would be tempted to, and that is WHY they should not be in as players. no reason playing with fire when it is not nessesary Leeeeeeets just get this one tiny little thing or two straight: To date there has only been one (proven, admitted and dealt with) incident - and from what I read, only one Dev was responsible? Hmmm? Secondly, the current allegations are still being investigated. We. Know. Nothing. Yet. Now that that's out of the way... Whether it was intended or not, you managed to dodge my question on temptation. OK, say you were working at a local corner shop. The owner has to bugger off to the cash-n-carry for stuff every Friday, leaving you to hold the fort for a couple of hours. Alone. There's already a shedload of cash in the till. Can you truly say that you would NOT be tempted to swipe a bit of that cash and go spend it on something, or build up the stolen cash over time to get that HD-ready TV you always wanted? ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.27 20:44:00 - [3] Originally by: CrestoftheStars if you read instead of just writing you would see that i did NOT avoid your quition and i gave it a straight answer. I did read your answer actually, but your answer was about the Devs' jobs as opposed to your own job, as per the question. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.27 21:05:00 - [4] Originally by: Sanctus Maleficus Also, you all should be careful about generalizing all "devs" as evil cheaters. You know its been one or two bad apples. Dingdingdingdingding, we have a winner! (In other words, I agree.) ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.27 21:35:00 - [5] I think you need to read Sanctus' post AGAIN. One or two bad apples does not mean that the whole company is likely or will commit any wrongdoing for definite. And I will repeat this again: The current allegations have not been proven, admitted, or fully investigated. So don't speak of that as a "2nd time" as it were deffo true, because nobody knows the facts. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.27 22:09:00 - [6] Originally by: Pan Crastus Originally by: Cypherous Originally by: Pan Crastus This vote is pointless - BoB and pets will vote YES, their enemies will vote NO... Draw your own conclusions. Seeing as i'm neither BoB nor anybodies pet i find statements like this annoying and down right untrue, Sorry, I forgot to mention BoB and pets' alts. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaa cough splutter Give it a rest, will ya? Just because peeps are of the opinion that the Devs should be allows to play doesn't mean they're BoB or BoB's pets. As I have said, I have never had any proper contact with anyone from BoB, ingame or out, excluding any forum posts here. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.27 22:09:00 - [7] Originally by: Pan Crastus Originally by: Cypherous Originally by: Pan Crastus This vote is pointless - BoB and pets will vote YES, their enemies will vote NO... Draw your own conclusions. Seeing as i'm neither BoB nor anybodies pet i find statements like this annoying and down right untrue, Sorry, I forgot to mention BoB and pets' alts. HAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAHAAAAAAAAaaaaaaaaaaaa cough splutter Give it a rest, will ya? Just because peeps are of the opinion that the Devs should be allows to play doesn't mean they're BoB or BoB's pets. As I have said, I have never had any proper contact with anyone from BoB, ingame or out, excluding any forum posts here. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.28 02:42:00 - [8] Edited by: The Pointless on 28/05/2007 02:41:23 Originally by: Pudgy d'Noob 1) Employees at a casino are not allowed to gamble at the casino, even if that would give them better insight on how to operate the casino. Employees of a lottery are not allowed to play that lottery. not even their families can participate. Ever wonder why? ONE major difference... Casinos offer real-world cash as prizes. EVE doesn't. And EVE is not a lottery. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.28 03:02:00 - [9] Originally by: FarScape III Your time invested is made better by them being able to play their own game, and by the way you are talking here, you need to get a REAL LIFE :) Ditto that! Originally by: FarScape III P.S. Do you want the people who run your government to live in ANOTHER country? Nope, why do you ask? ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.28 10:26:00 - [10] Originally by: MehTheTrader I absolutely disgusted with games with cheats. Cheating is rampant in ccp no doubt, how can it not be with the system. CCP's defense against cheating is they trust their devs, this is omfg rediclous. The funniest/sadest part of this all is they rehired t20. LIKE WHAT IS WRONG WITH CCP!!?? BRAIN FART! Could he actually be replaced? Think about it. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.28 11:10:00 - [11] Edited by: The Pointless on 28/05/2007 11:08:58 Originally by: Roy Batty68 OP is a Goon alt and obviously biased. He's an ex-Goon main actually. I check his profile after he sided with Skunk on an arguement a few weeks back. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"
The Pointless Gallente Lacks a Point Ltd	Posted - 2007.05.28 18:35:00 - [12] Originally by: Tortun Nahme "delusioned"? Lets see, people "accused" ccp of cheating, of the 4 allegations 2 have been shot down as unwarrented, and the other two are laughable to begin with, a PREVIOUS incident of ONE member misuing power does not translate to immediate guilt The fact that the people MAKING the accusation are questionable at BEST leads me to the conclusion that I'd rather not be one of the squealing sheep screaming murder. he rest of your post made no sense so I am just going to assume english isn't your first language and leave it at that Well I'm glad someone put it better than I ever could. ----------------------------------------------- "And I scream in a thousand voices!"

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